Which came first?  The chicken or the egg? 

In a brief conversation with Marty Folsom (Seattle-area theologian/counselor), he highlighted some possible connections between recursion theory and relational theology.  The language of recursion was new to me and I have much to learn.  This is where I’m in trying to get a handle on it.

First an image or two:

To get a visual of recursion click here or here:

The Dutch chocolate maker Droste is famous for the visual effect on its boxes of cocoa. The image contains itself on a smaller scale. This is sometimes called the “Droste effect” and is a form of recursion.

Recursion is the process a procedure goes through when one of the steps of the procedure involves rerunning the entire same procedure. A procedure that goes through recursion is said to be recursive. Something is also said to be recursive when it is the result of a recursive procedure.

“To understand recursion, one must recognize the distinction between a procedure and the running of a procedure. A procedure is a set of steps that are to be taken based on a set of rules. The running of a procedure involves actually following the rules and performing the steps. An analogy might be that a procedure is like a menu in that it is the possible steps, while running a procedure is actually choosing the courses for the meal from the menu.

“A procedure is recursive if one of the steps that makes up the procedure calls for a new running of the procedure. Therefore a recursive four course meal would be a meal in which one of the choices of appetizer, salad, entrée, or dessert was an entire meal unto itself. So a recursive meal might be potato skins, baby greens salad, chicken Parmesan, and for dessert, a four course meal, consisting of crab cakes, Caesar salad, for an entrée, a four course meal, and chocolate cake for dessert, so on until each of the meals within the meals is completed.

“It is important to note that a recursive procedure must complete every one of its steps. Even if a new running is called in one of its steps, each running must run through the remaining steps. What this means is that even if the salad is an entire four course meal unto itself, you still have to eat your entrée and dessert.” (wikipedia)

Recursion is not just for funky meals, it impacts social systems, learning, family systems and relating with one another.

Though I don’t know the theory well enough, to state this with any certitude, recursion theory appears to intersect with some aspects of social constructive theory, perichoresis and developmental theory (at least for a starter).  It even reminded me a bit of Eberhard Jüngel’s great text: God’s Being is in Becoming.

FYI – Marty has an article on the topic that will be published shortly.  I’ll try to post a link as one becomes available.  If you know of any theological applications of recursion I’d love to see them.

Peace, dwight

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5 thoughts on “recursion

  • May 26, 2005 at 5:50 PM
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    This strikes me as descriptive of the mental process we all have experienced called "deja vu." Recursion is deja vu!

  • May 27, 2005 at 1:19 PM
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    I look at your previous post, and relate to your analysis of the Protestant church as "Sleeping around". Although the Catholics regard marriage as a sacrament, the Protestants do not, and it shows in the churches.

    When one "joins" a church, there are two recursive processes. One "marries" the Bride of Christ, then one "marrries" a smaller subset (usually a demographic), then one "marries" a small group, then one (truly) marries an individual. (And, usually not in that sequence).

    The other recursive process is the other way. One "marries" a local church, then is part of a district/region/cultural demographic of that denomination, then part of the whole denomination, then "marries" the segment of the Church (Protestant/Catholic/Anabaptist,…) then is married to all of Christendom.

    Both recursive processes involve a type of "dating", courtship, engagement, that may or may not be repeated, and a "marriage". And within each element (dating, engagement,…) of that process is a process.

  • May 31, 2005 at 1:59 PM
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    Proverbs 26:11 (NIV)
    As a dog returns to its vomit,
    so a fool repeats his folly.

  • May 31, 2005 at 3:43 PM
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    "The unfailing love of the Lord never ends! By his mercies we have been kept from complete destruction. Great is his faithfulness; his mercies begin afresh each day." — Lam. 3:22-23

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